Comments on: Blogrush isn’t a Pyramid Scheme it’s a Ponzi Scheme http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=blogrush-isn%25e2%2580%2599t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%25e2%2580%2599s-a-ponzi-scheme Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:58:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: SEO 2.0 | 7 Reasons Why CLIQ Is the Better Blogrush http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-143 SEO 2.0 | 7 Reasons Why CLIQ Is the Better Blogrush Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:56:36 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-143 [...] no scam, scheme, no pyramid or ponzi involved, no strings [...] [...] no scam, scheme, no pyramid or ponzi involved, no strings [...]

]]> By: SEO 2.0 | 7 Reasons Why CLIQ Is the Better Blogrush http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-795 SEO 2.0 | 7 Reasons Why CLIQ Is the Better Blogrush Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:56:36 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-795 [...] no scam, scheme, no pyramid or ponzi involved, no strings [...] [...] no scam, scheme, no pyramid or ponzi involved, no strings [...]

]]> By: Boris http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Boris Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:58:36 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-134 Like all good things on the internet... This may well be a passing fad. However, since it does not involve a monetary commitment what's the harm. If all it ever become is a market source for second tier blogs... Is that a bad thing. I am putting it on my blog to increase traffic. This blog is in a niche catagory, house cleaning tips... Now, it is #1 ranked with Google for six related searches, but the blog only gets around 1500 hits a month. I work to increase traffic daily... So for me this seems like a viable option... If it is only temporary.... That's ok, because the information is useful many visitor place the blog in favorites. Thus ensuring steady traffic. Since Google has no opinion yet, I am moving forward. Like all good things on the internet… This may well be a passing fad. However, since it does not involve a monetary commitment what’s the harm. If all it ever become is a market source for second tier blogs… Is that a bad thing.

I am putting it on my blog to increase traffic. This blog is in a niche catagory, house cleaning tips… Now, it is #1 ranked with Google for six related searches, but the blog only gets around 1500 hits a month. I work to increase traffic daily… So for me this seems like a viable option…

If it is only temporary…. That’s ok, because the information is useful many visitor place the blog in favorites. Thus ensuring steady traffic.

Since Google has no opinion yet, I am moving forward.

]]> By: Boris http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-786 Boris Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:58:36 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-786 Like all good things on the internet... This may well be a passing fad. However, since it does not involve a monetary commitment what's the harm. If all it ever become is a market source for second tier blogs... Is that a bad thing. I am putting it on my blog to increase traffic. This blog is in a niche catagory, house cleaning tips... Now, it is #1 ranked with Google for six related searches, but the blog only gets around 1500 hits a month. I work to increase traffic daily... So for me this seems like a viable option... If it is only temporary.... That's ok, because the information is useful many visitor place the blog in favorites. Thus ensuring steady traffic. Since Google has no opinion yet, I am moving forward. Like all good things on the internet… This may well be a passing fad. However, since it does not involve a monetary commitment what’s the harm. If all it ever become is a market source for second tier blogs… Is that a bad thing.

I am putting it on my blog to increase traffic. This blog is in a niche catagory, house cleaning tips… Now, it is #1 ranked with Google for six related searches, but the blog only gets around 1500 hits a month. I work to increase traffic daily… So for me this seems like a viable option…

If it is only temporary…. That’s ok, because the information is useful many visitor place the blog in favorites. Thus ensuring steady traffic.

Since Google has no opinion yet, I am moving forward.

]]> By: BlogRush Getting The Press It Deserves - Internet Marketing Sucks! http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-136 BlogRush Getting The Press It Deserves - Internet Marketing Sucks! Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:23:35 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-136 [...] Blogrush isn’t a Pyramid Scheme it’s a Ponzi Scheme [...] [...] Blogrush isn’t a Pyramid Scheme it’s a Ponzi Scheme [...]

]]> By: BlogRush Getting The Press It Deserves - Internet Marketing Sucks! http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-788 BlogRush Getting The Press It Deserves - Internet Marketing Sucks! Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:23:35 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-788 [...] Blogrush isn’t a Pyramid Scheme it’s a Ponzi Scheme [...] [...] Blogrush isn’t a Pyramid Scheme it’s a Ponzi Scheme [...]

]]> By: Aaron Cook http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Aaron Cook Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:04:16 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-137 That's an excellent point Kelvin. And I most certainly agree with that. I just wanted to clarify what a Ponzi truly is since there's so much confusion on the Web about them and pyramids. ;) Shine on, Aaron That’s an excellent point Kelvin. And I most certainly agree with that. I just wanted to clarify what a Ponzi truly is since there’s so much confusion on the Web about them and pyramids. ;)

Shine on,
Aaron

]]> By: Aaron Cook http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-789 Aaron Cook Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:04:16 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-789 That's an excellent point Kelvin. And I most certainly agree with that. I just wanted to clarify what a Ponzi truly is since there's so much confusion on the Web about them and pyramids. ;) Shine on, Aaron That’s an excellent point Kelvin. And I most certainly agree with that. I just wanted to clarify what a Ponzi truly is since there’s so much confusion on the Web about them and pyramids. ;)

Shine on,
Aaron

]]> By: Kelvin http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Kelvin Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:34:17 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-138 I think it depends on whether you think the real estate on your site has a value Could you make money from adsense in the area used by blogrush? If it featured details of your RSS would it increase the number of subscribers? You are right it isn't a true Ponzi scheme but I think it relies on the hub I think it depends on whether you think the real estate on your site has a value

Could you make money from adsense in the area used by blogrush?
If it featured details of your RSS would it increase the number of subscribers?

You are right it isn’t a true Ponzi scheme but I think it relies on the hub

]]> By: Kelvin http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-790 Kelvin Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:34:17 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-790 I think it depends on whether you think the real estate on your site has a value Could you make money from adsense in the area used by blogrush? If it featured details of your RSS would it increase the number of subscribers? You are right it isn't a true Ponzi scheme but I think it relies on the hub I think it depends on whether you think the real estate on your site has a value

Could you make money from adsense in the area used by blogrush?
If it featured details of your RSS would it increase the number of subscribers?

You are right it isn’t a true Ponzi scheme but I think it relies on the hub

]]> By: Aaron Cook http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Aaron Cook Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:40:02 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-139 I'm gonna have to disagree with this based on what a Ponzi scheme actually is. Just like a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scheme requires a monetary investment. A Ponzi, by definition, is a fraudulent investment operation that involves paying returns to investors out of the money raised from subsequent investors, rather than from the profits generated by any "real" business. A Ponzi offers high short-term returns in order to entice new investors whose "money" is needed to fund payouts to earlier investors and to lure its victims into even bigger risks. Since there's no money exchanging hands, BR cannot be classified as a Ponzi or a as pyramid scheme. Both require monetary investment up front. Yes, BR is pyramidical in structure, but it is not a pyramid "scheme". What essentially differentiates a Ponzi from a pyramid is that in a Ponzi, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims and interacts with them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly, and failure to recruit typically means no investment return at all. Anyway, really nice blog here. I'm glad I happened across it. Shine on, Aaron I’m gonna have to disagree with this based on what a Ponzi scheme actually is. Just like a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scheme requires a monetary investment. A Ponzi, by definition, is a fraudulent investment operation that involves paying returns to investors out of the money raised from subsequent investors, rather than from the profits generated by any “real” business.

A Ponzi offers high short-term returns in order to entice new investors whose “money” is needed to fund payouts to earlier investors and to lure its victims into even bigger risks. Since there’s no money exchanging hands, BR cannot be classified as a Ponzi or a as pyramid scheme. Both require monetary investment up front. Yes, BR is pyramidical in structure, but it is not a pyramid “scheme”.

What essentially differentiates a Ponzi from a pyramid is that in a Ponzi, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims and interacts with them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly, and failure to recruit typically means no investment return at all.

Anyway, really nice blog here. I’m glad I happened across it.

Shine on,
Aaron

]]> By: Aaron Cook http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Aaron Cook Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:40:02 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-791 I'm gonna have to disagree with this based on what a Ponzi scheme actually is. Just like a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scheme requires a monetary investment. A Ponzi, by definition, is a fraudulent investment operation that involves paying returns to investors out of the money raised from subsequent investors, rather than from the profits generated by any "real" business. A Ponzi offers high short-term returns in order to entice new investors whose "money" is needed to fund payouts to earlier investors and to lure its victims into even bigger risks. Since there's no money exchanging hands, BR cannot be classified as a Ponzi or a as pyramid scheme. Both require monetary investment up front. Yes, BR is pyramidical in structure, but it is not a pyramid "scheme". What essentially differentiates a Ponzi from a pyramid is that in a Ponzi, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims and interacts with them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly, and failure to recruit typically means no investment return at all. Anyway, really nice blog here. I'm glad I happened across it. Shine on, Aaron I’m gonna have to disagree with this based on what a Ponzi scheme actually is. Just like a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scheme requires a monetary investment. A Ponzi, by definition, is a fraudulent investment operation that involves paying returns to investors out of the money raised from subsequent investors, rather than from the profits generated by any “real” business.

A Ponzi offers high short-term returns in order to entice new investors whose “money” is needed to fund payouts to earlier investors and to lure its victims into even bigger risks. Since there’s no money exchanging hands, BR cannot be classified as a Ponzi or a as pyramid scheme. Both require monetary investment up front. Yes, BR is pyramidical in structure, but it is not a pyramid “scheme”.

What essentially differentiates a Ponzi from a pyramid is that in a Ponzi, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims and interacts with them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly, and failure to recruit typically means no investment return at all.

Anyway, really nice blog here. I’m glad I happened across it.

Shine on,
Aaron

]]> By: Kelvin http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Kelvin Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:59:38 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-142 I agree Symbian, it'll stagger on for a while but once the good people jump ship it'll just be a banner exchange for second rate blogs. Plus they'll know exactly how many page impression's you've got. From what I understand the owner of BlogRush has his own network of niche sites. Interesting coincidence. I agree Symbian, it’ll stagger on for a while but once the good people jump ship it’ll just be a banner exchange for second rate blogs.

Plus they’ll know exactly how many page impression’s you’ve got. From what I understand the owner of BlogRush has his own network of niche sites. Interesting coincidence.

]]> By: Kelvin http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-794 Kelvin Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:59:38 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-794 I agree Symbian, it'll stagger on for a while but once the good people jump ship it'll just be a banner exchange for second rate blogs. Plus they'll know exactly how many page impression's you've got. From what I understand the owner of BlogRush has his own network of niche sites. Interesting coincidence. I agree Symbian, it’ll stagger on for a while but once the good people jump ship it’ll just be a banner exchange for second rate blogs.

Plus they’ll know exactly how many page impression’s you’ve got. From what I understand the owner of BlogRush has his own network of niche sites. Interesting coincidence.

]]> By: Symbian http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Symbian Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:56:20 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-141 Thanks for explanation of the scheme. I think the lower 'crowd' of bloggers in this scheme doesn't even know that "...value of the traffic blogrush sends is worth less than the advertising for other they provide". So it is possible that BlogRush will survive. Thanks for explanation of the scheme. I think the lower ‘crowd’ of bloggers in this scheme doesn’t even know that “…value of the traffic blogrush sends is worth less than the advertising for other they provide”. So it is possible that BlogRush will survive.

]]> By: Symbian http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-793 Symbian Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:56:20 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-793 Thanks for explanation of the scheme. I think the lower 'crowd' of bloggers in this scheme doesn't even know that "...value of the traffic blogrush sends is worth less than the advertising for other they provide". So it is possible that BlogRush will survive. Thanks for explanation of the scheme. I think the lower ‘crowd’ of bloggers in this scheme doesn’t even know that “…value of the traffic blogrush sends is worth less than the advertising for other they provide”. So it is possible that BlogRush will survive.

]]> By: PaymentBlogger » The ancient Egyptians didn’t rush around but they still built pyramids http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-140 PaymentBlogger » The ancient Egyptians didn’t rush around but they still built pyramids Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:58:22 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-140 [...] money up front or in this case links but you just being semantic, apparently rather then pyramid its a Ponzi scheme. Which is just like a pyramid scheme in the way referrals build up like a pyramid but not a pyramid [...] [...] money up front or in this case links but you just being semantic, apparently rather then pyramid its a Ponzi scheme. Which is just like a pyramid scheme in the way referrals build up like a pyramid but not a pyramid [...]

]]> By: PaymentBlogger » The ancient Egyptians didn’t rush around but they still built pyramids http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-792 PaymentBlogger » The ancient Egyptians didn’t rush around but they still built pyramids Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:58:22 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-792 [...] money up front or in this case links but you just being semantic, apparently rather then pyramid its a Ponzi scheme. Which is just like a pyramid scheme in the way referrals build up like a pyramid but not a pyramid [...] [...] money up front or in this case links but you just being semantic, apparently rather then pyramid its a Ponzi scheme. Which is just like a pyramid scheme in the way referrals build up like a pyramid but not a pyramid [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Street http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Jonathan Street Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:13:29 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-135 Thanks for clearing that up. :) "as it will require an ever increasing number of page impressions and widget users to deliver the traffic they promise." Actually I don't think this is the case. I think they have enough 'headline slots' to fulfil their promises even in the incredibly unlikely event that 10 tiers of referrals become common. In the far more likely situation where referrals don't routinely reach 10 tiers they'll have plenty of slots available in every widget to sell advertising. With click trough rates of 0.05% (prelim results from problogger) neither the average user nor the advertiser is going to see much benefit. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

“as it will require an ever increasing number of page impressions and widget users to deliver the traffic they promise.”

Actually I don’t think this is the case. I think they have enough ‘headline slots’ to fulfil their promises even in the incredibly unlikely event that 10 tiers of referrals become common. In the far more likely situation where referrals don’t routinely reach 10 tiers they’ll have plenty of slots available in every widget to sell advertising.

With click trough rates of 0.05% (prelim results from problogger) neither the average user nor the advertiser is going to see much benefit.

]]> By: Jonathan Street http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/2007/09/19/blogrush-isn%e2%80%99t-a-pyramid-scheme-it%e2%80%99s-a-ponzi-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-787 Jonathan Street Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:13:29 +0000 http://www.sitevisibility.co.uk/blog/?p=77#comment-787 Thanks for clearing that up. :) "as it will require an ever increasing number of page impressions and widget users to deliver the traffic they promise." Actually I don't think this is the case. I think they have enough 'headline slots' to fulfil their promises even in the incredibly unlikely event that 10 tiers of referrals become common. In the far more likely situation where referrals don't routinely reach 10 tiers they'll have plenty of slots available in every widget to sell advertising. With click trough rates of 0.05% (prelim results from problogger) neither the average user nor the advertiser is going to see much benefit. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

“as it will require an ever increasing number of page impressions and widget users to deliver the traffic they promise.”

Actually I don’t think this is the case. I think they have enough ‘headline slots’ to fulfil their promises even in the incredibly unlikely event that 10 tiers of referrals become common. In the far more likely situation where referrals don’t routinely reach 10 tiers they’ll have plenty of slots available in every widget to sell advertising.

With click trough rates of 0.05% (prelim results from problogger) neither the average user nor the advertiser is going to see much benefit.

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